re: As usual, "runsan" has no clue (especially WRT Internet Exploder)
Monday, June 29, 2009 at 11:27 am
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Posted by gewg_
(3932 messages posted)
runsan wrote:
|IE is a standard in itself,
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Internet Exploder is the standard for how NOT to build a browser.
The fact is, the IE "standard" ARBITRARILY CHANGES from version to version.
Web developers despise IE. Many no longer support IE6.
...and the standards for Web development (and tools) have **always** been
the WorldWide Web Consortium's published standards for HTML, CSS, XML, etc.
Their validators are the Gold Standard for what is and what isn't proper coding:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win98/1246235593
|& it’s proud not to be the underdog.
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There is NO honor among criminals.
IE is the product of a convicted criminal organization.
IE was forced on its users by an abusive monopolist.
Internet Exploder is something to be proud of producing (or using)?? NOT.
|FF does hinder when it comes to styling with CSS..
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Interesting you should mention the area where IE trails the pack by a MASSIVE margin
--again, EXPECIALLY in light of IE6's lousy compliance with the W3C's CSS standard.
|you can’t color scrollbars & you can’t add styles to images.
|Fact: all versions compatible with 98 have glitches.
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KernelEx is a patch that
allows FF3, Ooo3, Flash10, etc. to run under Win9x.
There is nothing keeping you from use a MODERN browser
--even the *most* modern versions of the Gecko-based browsers.
...and while we're on this topic, M$ PURPOSELY broke later versions of IE
so they wouldn't work under Win9x (or even under W2k)
and so you would have to give them $$$ for a new operating system.
Truly a corporation populated by evil individuals.
|FF isn’t completely friendly with various media embedding plugins…
|from suggesting “manual installs” for Shockwave and WMP,
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Both of those technologies are junk as well.
Just get a MODERN Open Source media player like VLC or Mplayer.
|or (once they’re installed) either half-loads the embedded page,
|or loads everything… but refuses to play the content.
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Again: The problem is chosing junky media players from contemptible corporations.
|Fact: IE6 has been more secure than Firefox 1 in 2006
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NOT a fact: A dated conclusion based on a tainted, incomplete database.
It is, in fact, a silly statement--at worst: fanboyism; at best: simply uninformed.
|FF flaws
|SA12403 - Unpatched since 08-30-2004
|SA23046 - Unpatched since 11-22-2006
|SA25481 - Unpatched since 06-01-2007
|SA27907 - Unpatched since 12-04-2007
|SA12580 - Unpatched from 09-18-2004 to 01-15-2008
|SA20442 - Unpatched from 06-06-2006 to 10-19-2007
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MINOR flaws--all now patched.
A major problem in the methodology you cited is that
the database relies on the vendors to report the flaws in their products.
M$ is notorious for not only *not patching* flaws
but **NOT EVEN REPORTING THEM** to start with.
This is the antithesis of the Open Source ethos.
...and Firefox's time-to-patch latency is a particular shining example,
as it is unparalleled for serious vulnerabilities.
For contrast, see "CERT" (below).
Your impotent attempts at slinging mud are really simple-minded.
|Using FF is not a solution to spyware as you put it
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The NoScript extention for Firefox (and its siblings) is
the single most effective anti-malware meme available in ANY browser.
Internet Exploder doesn't have anything that compares in any way in this arena.
Excluding ActiveX from the browser is another obvious choice to improve security.
The AdBlock Plus extension for Firefox (and its siblings)
is also a MASSIVE improvement in the browsing experience.
Be sure to mention when Internet Exploder offers anything like that--especially IE6.
Actual facts:
Since 2004, CERT, the US Govt's computer security experts have said
STOP USING INTERNET EXPLORER.
The contrast is so great, they say *Use ANY other browser*.
They mentioned A MOUNTAIN of SERIOUS vulnerabilities:
cache
of http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/713878
...and in the intervening years,
NONE of those major flaws have been corrected.
In addition, from a usability standpoint,
looking at the results of Acid3 (the most recent browser proficiency test),
Internet Exploder FAILS MISERABLY--and IE6 is at the very bottom of the entire lot.
cache
of http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Acid3#Trident_-_Internet_Explorer
cache
of http://miglius.lt/acid-3-browser-test/1457
(Since that time, FF has improved to 93%
and will hold there until after FF3.5, currently a RC, is formally released.)
...and IE6 doesn't even pass Acid2 (and NEVER will). Just pathetic.
cache
of http://www.webstandards.org/action/acid2
cache
of http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2005/07/28/ie7_css_upda
(Internet Exploder didn't even pass Acid2 until IE8.)
|& I shall encourage others to use IE thanks to it's reliability.
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As usual, anyone who follows your always-wrong advice
will find himself, at best, using an inferior browser
and, at worst, with a thoroughly infected Windoze box.
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