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re: att/yahoo dsl link Wednesday, April 4, 2007 at 10:22 pm Posted by Ms. Eagle (33507 messages posted) This isn't an issue for this forum to deal with. Why don't you call them? The OS doesn't matter, even though they may say it's not supported. The CD they provide may include software that's not compatible with 98, so tell them you want help setting it up manually. Although, if you have an older/slower PC, you'll never get close to the average speed with DSL. The processor speed makes a difference on DSL connections. Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts File [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: att/yahoo dsl link Thursday, April 5, 2007 at 9:45 am Posted by Steve (21539 messages posted) Over the last 7 years I have had 5 types of DSL service, and not one of them needed to install the ISP software to work. ISP software is like permentently installing Adware on your Computer, and just Bogs them down. With a Router I can connect any Windows, Linux, or Mac Computers with almost no effort. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: att/yahoo dsl link Thursday, April 5, 2007 at 11:54 am Posted by C K (6515 messages posted) If connecting to the DSL modem with Win 98, you need to add missing (modern) protocols that Win 98 didn't come with, and if you need to log in, you may need to install software. You can find the protocols elsewhere if the ISP doesn't include them on a CD for installation, and many don't so hence the "unsupported" issue. It can be a pain to get a Win 98 system set up to work with broadband in some cases. If your machine has a NIC or you buy and install one that includes Win 98 drivers, then you should have no problem connecting through a router BUT, DSL/broadband providers have been changing/changed their systems so you need to be aware of setup problems involving routers and the provider's modems. For instance, on my old DSL system, the old modem and router were completely plug and play, but on the new faster service, the modem had to be set up to new specifications, the router had to be set up differently, and the providers servers wouldn't accept the new MAC address of the new equipment. The old MAC address had to be cloned into the new equipment or I had to turn off the modem for 3-24 hours to reset the MAC address in the providers servers. I found the info I needed on Broadbandreports that did a good job explaining what had to be done. WWW.broadbandreports.com has many help articles for setting up common routers to many providers systems, as well as articles explaining how things work and what to watch out for. It's big site and a little hard to navigate if you haven't been there before but well worth the time when you find all of the info that can help you set up your systems.. Sadly, I have yet to see good support from most providers on some of these issues. The online articles on other websites are better than the providers support IME.. On a side note, older slower computers will have more problems and may not be able to use the full speed of the connection if it's a 1.5-3.0 so most providers will ask about the speed of your machine or it's age and operating system. I agree with Steve though, I never install the software sent from the provider. I do the setup manually since I have the knowledge and experience. To many horror stories of provider software really messing up machines. Good Luck! On Wednesday, April 4, 2007 at 9:09 pm, cch wrote: >I have been using dial up and want to get ATT/Yahoo DSL link. When I tried to sign >up it seemed they do not support win98 anymore. I remember checking out some routers >some time back which supports win98. Does it mean I can connect the DSL modem to >a router and then connect my pc to the router to get around this problem? ( I also >have a linux box, that is why I checked the routers). Thanks [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: att/yahoo dsl link -- ISP software and bloat Thursday, April 5, 2007 at 12:35 pm Posted by gewg_ (3898 messages posted) |Over the last 7 years I have had 5 types of DSL service, |and not one of them needed to install the ISP software to work. | Steve | A point that needs to be shouted from the mountain tops daily. |ISP software is like [permanently] installing Adware on your Computer, |and just Bogs them down. |With a Router I can connect any Windows, Linux, or Mac Computers |with almost no effort. | It should also be mentioned that a dial-up ISP that is *Windows-only* cough*PeoplePC*cough is one to avoid. They install lots of crapware as well. AOHell is also notorious for bloating up your box with unnecessary crap. Windoze built-in Dial-Up Networking services are quite adequate for the task of connection to any **good** dial-up ISP. Recent discussions of hardware vendors pre-installing Linux on their systems has brought up the point that one of the ways that the price of pre-installed Windoze is driven down is that it is subsidized by *other* vendors having THEIR crapware uploaded to those boxes and *those* corps paying for the opportunity to bloat up your disk (and often your SysTray). This reminds me of the days of "free" ISPs (NetZero, Juno, etc.) where they would permanently use 15% of your browser window to display ads (which also ate into your bandwidth requirements as the ads perodically updated). The 1st thing the non-brain-dead did was investigate the hacks to disable the adware. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: att/yahoo dsl link -- ISP software and bloat Thursday, April 5, 2007 at 1:32 pm Posted by Steve (21539 messages posted) I did come close to having to install ISP software witch used pppoe Dialing, but found a small download called winpoet, and another called RASPPPOE was able to handle the DSL dialing, and was able to avoid the ISP Bloatware. Later I discovered many of the New Routers, could Handle the pppoe Dialing, and just had to set Computers to auto dhcp. Basicly turned it into a always on internet connection. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: att/yahoo dsl link Thursday, April 5, 2007 at 9:18 pm Posted by cch (2 messages posted) I gather from Steve's response that it can be done ( connecting thru a router). Is it just plug and play or do I have to install software not supplied by the ISP or the router manufacturer? On Wednesday, April 4, 2007 at 9:09 pm, cch wrote: >I have been using dial up and want to get ATT/Yahoo DSL link. When I tried to sign >up it seemed they do not support win98 anymore. I remember checking out some routers >some time back which supports win98. Does it mean I can connect the DSL modem to >a router and then connect my pc to the router to get around this problem? ( I also >have a linux box, that is why I checked the routers). Thanks [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: att/yahoo dsl link Friday, April 6, 2007 at 7:58 am Posted by Steve (21539 messages posted) Link shows what is needed to do with 98 if you can set up a Router. CK's suggestion about a visit to the DSLReports Web site is good. You will probably find a group that actually is using the service you are thinking about signing up with. When I first had a ISP that used pppoe to connect about 4 or 5 years back, very few Routers worked with it, the first 3 brands of Routers I bought I had to return. A Forum member at DSLReports turned me on to the brand Router I needed for the ISP I was using. Now most the name Brands Routers can use pppoe just fine. What ever Router you get though shouldn't need any software to install on Windows. http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/w98tcpip.html [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows 98 Discussion Forum