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re: DVD Writer connection using USB Wednesday, October 1, 2008 at 4:42 am Posted by Steve B (1600 messages posted) Get yourself a rewriteable DVD for practice, until you solve the problem. I suspect not all IDE to USB converters are equally capable. CD/DVD drives use some commands that aren't used by hard drives. Many of these converters, sometimes called bridges, are designed for hard drives and don't properly support optical drives. I think among other things, the converter must have ATAPI support. You can post this question on cdfreaks.com. On Wednesday, October 1, 2008 at 3:28 am, Siddharth wrote: >I recently brought an IDE to USB converter to connect my ASUS DVD writer to my laptop >through USB inteface. The device is detected and it reads discs perfectly, but the >problem arises when i try to burn a DVD using Nero Burning ROM or Nero Express, it >shows a "DMA driver error,timeout occured" and the writer stops the burning process, >which in turn, renders the inserted DVD unwritable. Till now i have lost 4 blank >DVDs just because of this..need help... [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: DVD Writer connection using USB Wednesday, October 1, 2008 at 9:00 am Posted by geek9pm (915 messages posted) May I but in? This is more a Microsoft problem more that a hardware problem. Everybody wants to blame the hardware people for this. MM$ (Microsoft) sold us the idea that USB will do everything better, and gain with no pain! NOT! Here is a remark from that site give in the post above. "USB-Bridge need to be improved to allow real 16x reading/writing..." http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/NU-HDW-164-external-DVD-Burner/ Notice how they blame the hardware maker! In the M$ KB (Knowledge Base) site you find that even good HDD with USB interface will fail as a network device because of an oversight on the part of MS. The ATAPI to USB thing was crippled to begin with by MS, the maker of the Windows OS! Maybe they will fix it in Vista? After all these years! I don't think so! Geek9pm [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: DVD Writer connection using USB Wednesday, October 1, 2008 at 9:11 am Posted by C K (6157 messages posted) As Steve said, the interface specs need to specify that it will support an optical device. There are differences between HDD and optical devices. There can also be issues that disconnect or cause the interface to "timeout", but I would start with making sure that the interface supports an optical device first... You can buy enclosures for optical drives, but they aren't as common as for HDD's.. [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: DVD Writer connection using USB Wednesday, October 1, 2008 at 12:14 pm Posted by Ricer46 (20470 messages posted) Microsoft may well be to blame, but it is nevertheless a hardware problem — usb is simply inferior to ide. I'd never try to do anything through usb that is as timing sensitive as recording to optical media. I just wouldn't trust it to work for recording to optical media. Maybe it would be okay for data storage. On Wednesday, October 1, 2008 at 9:00 am, geek9pm wrote: >May I but in? >This is more a Microsoft problem more that a hardware problem. Everybody wants >to blame the hardware people for this. MM$ (Microsoft) sold us the idea that USB >will do everything better, and gain with no pain! NOT! > >Here is a remark from that site give in the post above. >"USB-Bridge need to be improved to allow real 16x reading/writing..." >http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/NU-HDW-164-external-DVD-Burner/ > >Notice how they blame the hardware maker! >In the M$ KB (Knowledge Base) site you find that even good HDD with USB interface >will fail as a network device because of an oversight on the part of MS. The ATAPI >to USB thing was crippled to begin with by MS, the maker of the Windows OS! Maybe >they will fix it in Vista? After all these years! I don't think so! [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: DVD Writer connection using USB Wednesday, October 1, 2008 at 2:08 pm Posted by geek9pm (915 messages posted) Thanks, Ricer46. Yes, vetter hardwar can make it better. Yet a better USB driver made just for XP may solve the problem. Rather than buy a better USB device, he may want to consider an economical hardware work-around. IDE to SATA. Likely his mobo has a good SATA with XP drivers. If so he could check this out: http://www.whatacable.com/serial-ata-sata-to-ide-converter.aspx The vendor says they have model that will support ATAPI Packet command set. Support 48-bit LBA addressing. Support additional ATA command for serial ATA... yada yada. I have not tried it, but maybe I will. I have given up other wise on external drives. They say you can run a SATA cable up to three feet from the interface. What would you say to that? Geek9pm [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: DVD Writer connection using USB Wednesday, October 1, 2008 at 2:39 pm Posted by Ricer46 (20470 messages posted) That's a fascinating solution, and I'd have more faith in it. On Wednesday, October 1, 2008 at 2:08 pm, geek9pm wrote: >Thanks, Ricer46. Yes, vetter hardwar can make it better. Yet a better USB driver >made just for XP may solve the problem. >Rather than buy a better USB device, he may want to consider an economical hardware >work-around. IDE to SATA. Likely his mobo has a good SATA with XP drivers. If so >he could check this out: > >http://www.whatacable.com/serial-ata-sata-to-ide-converter.aspx > The vendor says they have model that will support ATAPI Packet command set. >Support 48-bit LBA addressing. Support additional ATA command for serial ATA... yada >yada. I have not tried it, but maybe I will. I have given up other wise on external >drives. They say you can run a SATA cable up to three feet from the interface. What >would you say to that? [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: DVD Writer connection using USB Wednesday, October 1, 2008 at 4:22 pm Posted by Steve B (1600 messages posted) An all SATA connection is the best, but it's possible to use a USB connected external burner. I doubt his laptop has a SATA port. I have a Plumax USB enclosure for a DVD burner that works very well. Unfortunately the one I have is no longer available on the internet. cdfreaks.com has a big external enclosures thread. That's where I learned about the one I have. I haven't looked at the thread in a couple of years. It's titled strangely enough "The big external enclosures thread". I'm sure many of the posts at the beginning are out of date. http://club.cdfreaks.com/f143/ [Reply or follow-up to this message] re: DVD Writer connection using USB Friday, October 3, 2008 at 2:06 am Posted by NigelHH (952 messages posted) Is your laptop USB 2.0? If not, it may well be too slow to keep up with writing the DVD. Try setting the DVD write speed lower, maybe even x1 to start. [Reply or follow-up to this message] Tip: Use one of the [Reply or follow-up to this message] links above to add a message to this thread Search this forum Start a new thread on a different subject Report abuse of the forum Return to the Windows XP Discussion Forum